My Dyno Run


My Dyno Run

On Thursday, March 14, 1002, I had the opportunity to make a free dyno run provided by Bamm Motorsports in Bellflower, Ca. This offer was made on the forum by Matt, the manager of Bamm Motorsports. The dyno they use is a very expensive model that uses SAE correction and a loaded wheel to provide accurate True Rear Wheel Horsepower. For more information on Bamm Motorsports and the dyno they use, consult their website.

The following is the post I made to the forum when I got home that day.


From: Blacktop, SA750 Grand Wazoo (STEVE_B_) Mar-14 1:49 pm 
To: ALL (1 of 70) 
8395.1 

Wow! that was fun, interesting, informative, and suspicion confirming!

First off, the dyno they bought uses SAE correction factors to produce accurate True Rear Wheel Horsepower. Matt was a nice guy, I met the owner, Bamm, and had a great time.

Here's my setup:

Vance & Hines Cruzers 
Thunder Air Box 
K&N Air Filter 
Stage 3 jetting, 134 front / 138 rear main jets 
Needles clips on 2nd notch

A couple of things of note before you view the results. He told me V&H are the best pipes. The Cobra pipes, they have found, rob horsepower. He showed me a run done on a stock ACE 750 that they had done some work on, polishing, porting, etc. The stock (before) run showed hp at 39 and the torque I don't remember exactly, but I believe it was around 40. The after run showed that bikes hp at 46 and , surprisingly, the torque dropped to 29. That bike was tuned for horsepower, not stump pulling ability.

I had explained that after adding the Thunder Kit, I could really notice the additional torque, where I did not have to downshift to keep from lugging the engine, that it would just pump right out of low speeds and rpm's in higher gears.

By the way, he did redline it and the rev limiter kicks in between 6200 and 6300 rpm.

The results, on my bike, with my setup, may surprise you. Here's a scan of the printout: http://sa750.com/other/dyno_sm.jpg

The numbers are explained by these two factors:

When I added the Thunder Kit, I did not move the clips on my needles. I figured I'd leave them on the 2nd notch and see how it goes. I had been feeling that I was losing something, and was planning to lower the clips to the 3rd notch, at least. I knew the Dynojet Stage 3 jetting instructions said 4th notch, but I figured I could always do that. What the dyno showed, and Matt confirmed, was a large drop in hp after about 4300 rpm. It's way lean at the top end, that due to the clip position. That did confirm my belief that I needed to drop the clips. So guess where I'm going to spend a few hours of my afternoon now? In the garage ripping GOT's guts out to drop the clips!

He also told me that the torque numbers are due, in large part, to the Vance & Hines pipes. He said they V&H pipes really pump up the torque.

So, for those that haven't clicked the link, the final was 40.76 bhp at 5290 rpm, and 48.68 ft/lbs of torque at 3570 rpm. I believe the printout grabs max hp from the spot where hp and torque cross each other, so that number is at the top of the report, even though at other points the hp was higher, and the torque as well.

Matt says when I drop the clips, the hp will raise up to the 43 to 45 area we had been expecting. The torque will probably go up as well, but only about 1 pound or so.

I'll be taking the bike back on Tuesday for another run to check the result of dropping the clips, and I'll report back.

Now, all you SoCal'rs, get your butts down to Bamm Motorsports! We need Digger's run, and Sake's run with the Kickers, and all you other guys, so we can put together a database. Bamm is having a Dyno Party and a Dyno Shootout on April 14th, with free food and entertainment. Vendors will be there, and there will be prizes and raffles and all kinds of fun stuff.

Bamm Motorsports is located at 9032 Artesia Blvd. Bldg C, Suite 301/302 Bellflower, Ca 90706. Their phone number is 562-867-2020.

Now it's time to head for the garage, and the tools, and crank it up a notch! BAM!!!


About the needle clip position…..

On my way to work on Friday, I had a good chance to try it out on the California freeways. I discovered that for my setup and location (as others have found with the 134/138 jets), with the clips on the 4th notch it runs a little too rich on the very top end, mostly noticeable in 4th or 5th above 60 mph. When you ease off the throttle, then hammer it, the engine cuts out for about a half second as it tries to burn all that extra fuel it doesn't need, then jumps to life. My next move is to place the clips on the 3rd notch where I was going to in the first place, and that should have it just about right. On Monday (my day off), I'll take care of that and update this page with my results. then on Tuesday, I should have the results of my 2nd dyno run after dropping the clips. Stay tuned!

For more information about cutting the needles, and clip positions on cut and uncut needles, see the Cutting The Needles page.